Anyone tried this to run only on standard PC ram only?

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by gemstonebro - opened

Anyone tried this to run only on standard PC ram only? Like basic CPU workstation mobo and ram.

If yes how much tokens/s can this go during long context? Please please tell me!!!

Basic cpu and basic ram will freeze/OOM/fry if you try on a consumer grade machine.
The super bare minimal setup I theorically found is 2x3090 24Gb Vram + 256Gb ram to split the KV and be able to run at... 1-2tps (in the minimal compressed version).

Didn't test it yet because I only have 128Gb max on my biggest machine.

Your best option to have it unlimited at home is either to have a big cluster of gpus or a friend with big gpus, or use cloud providers. Enjoy !

Basic cpu and basic ram will freeze/OOM/fry if you try on a consumer grade machine.
The super bare minimal setup I theorically found is 2x3090 24Gb Vram + 256Gb ram to split the KV and be able to run at... 1-2tps (in the minimal compressed version).

Didn't test it yet because I only have 128Gb max on my biggest machine.

Your best option to have it unlimited at home is either to have a big cluster of gpus or a friend with big gpus, or use cloud providers. Enjoy !

Hmm thanks! Okay then i suppose i will drop "consumer grade" hopes.. How do i know what item is "not consumer grade" based on price? must have "workstation or server word in it?"

Well, a 3090 is technically consumer grade, A 3060 12Gb too (avoid 4000 serie unless super incredible price), then there is the 5090.

Regarding prices, there exists three eras ^^
Pre crypto prices
Pre AI prices
Current prices, inheriting from the previous ones. Don't mistake me, rise in prices means the demand is super high (combined to scarcity of silicon-based components) and that people are actually willing to fiddle with AI at home. Check your local second hand market for 3090, they are sometimes cheaper wrapped in a fully working system ๐Ÿ˜Ž

Then there are some homelabs with 8x3090 which is still consumer grade !

To sumup the difference between consumer/cluster is indeed the price (juicy 8xMi300X or HB100 or HB200) but the physical hardware that is ahead of consumer one. Bandwith, memory correction, network, monitoring, cooling, power consumption... They are all on an other level.

(If you have brave browser, Ctrl + B then paste the technical stuff to the chat, or copy paste to your favorite chatbot and request more insight regarding consumer/cluster/datacenter based on my answer).

Enjoy the big numbers ๐Ÿค“

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